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2007 Doge Nitro Most Disappointing?

I doubt that many here would agree that the 2007 Dodge Nitro is one of the most disappointing vehicle of 2007!!!!!!


Uncoupling a merger that missed
'98 Daimler pact held promise for great cars, but few materialized
By Christopher Jensen, Globe Correspondent | May 15, 2007


The same dreary theme followed with other new models, including the 2007 Dodge Nitro, 2007 Jeep Compass, and the Chrysler Sebring. Along with the Caliber, they were listed as the "most disappointing" vehicles of the year by Consumer Reports magazine, a label also pinned on the Toyota Yaris.






Great vehicles were the promise held out to US consumers when the merger of Daimler-Benz and Chrysler was unveiled in 1998. But with a few exceptions, it hasn't worked out that way.

The idea was to blend German technology and prestige with Chrysler's engineering expertise, as well as its understanding of and access to the American market.

In the first few years, there were plenty of encouraging words.

"Our success has been achieved by the blending and collaboration of the most talented US and German executives," said Robert Eaton, chairman and chief executive of Chrysler Corp., in 2000. "I am proud of this team."

What German and American executives called a merger of equals would make DaimlerChrysler the world's best automaker and result in a conga line of irresistible vehicles. That was the plan, anyway.

But the plan was officially scrapped yesterday with the news that the private equity firm Cerberus Capital Management LP is buying 80.1 percent of Chrysler, for $7.4 billion.

The uncoupling makes it clear what many observers have known for years: The promised magic combination didn't turn out the promised magic vehicles.

The first vehicle from the merger came in 2003. The 2004 Chrysler Crossfire was a two-seater. The exterior was created by American designers, but underneath it relied heavily on the mechanical underpinnings of an older version of the Mercedes-Benz SLK sports car. It made a splash, but it was a vehicle for a niche market, and the ripples disappeared quickly.

The most impressive Euro-American creation came a year later: the 2005 Chrysler 300 and 300C sedans. They had rear-wheel drive, one sign of a vehicle designed for sporty good handling. Chrysler officials said they were looking at rear-wheel drive long before the merger; Mercedes endorsed the idea, and the rear suspension was based on the Mercedes E-Class sedan's.

The 300's styling was brassy American, undiluted by European subtlety or discretion. In its most powerful version, the 300C, it had an all-American 5.7-liter Hemi V-8 engine that produced 340 horsepower.

The 300 was an intercontinental stunner. Not only it was named the 2005 Motor Trend Car of the Year, but 50 automotive journalists from the United States and Canada voted it the 2005 North American Car of the Year.

Sales were strong. By the end of 2005, the Chrysler 300 was at the top of J.D. Power and Associates' "luxury-entry" segment. With about 144,000 sold, the model bested competitors from BMW, Acura, Infiniti, Lexus, Cadillac, and Mercedes. That raised hopes the cross-Atlantic alliance would bring fabulous news for the company and consumers. But what followed were vehicles that lacked the magnetic flair of the 300 and 300C.

For example, last year DaimlerChrysler introduced the Dodge Caliber, a small car that was supposed to challenge heavyweight competitors such as the Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla. The automaker said it would sell the Caliber worldwide and use it to establish the Dodge nameplate. But it was uninteresting to drive and unrefined, with an interior that looked cheap.

The same dreary theme followed with other new models, including the 2007 Dodge Nitro, 2007 Jeep Compass, and the Chrysler Sebring. Along with the Caliber, they were listed as the "most disappointing" vehicles of the year by Consumer Reports magazine, a label also pinned on the Toyota Yaris.

In a world filled with serious competitors, the alliance was not producing vehicles strong enough to sustain, much less nourish, an automaker. After the 300C, it all seemed so promising.

What went wrong?

The possibilities range from internal, international squabbling to the more likely factor: the company's unwillingness and inability to spend the money needed to make world-class vehicles.

Will the new operation be better for US consumers? That's the promise. Being a private company will allow the new operation to "renew its focus on what has always made us special -- our passion, creativity and commitment to delivering exciting Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge vehicles," Tom LaSorda, chief executive of Chrysler, said in a prepared statement.

The suggestion is that the new operation won't be as worried about pesky stockholders and will be able to devote more resources to vehicles. That would be great. But new vehicles take years to develop, so it's going to be a while before we know whether consumers will benefit.

A lot of promises were made about Chrysler in 1998, too.

LINK: http://www.boston.com/business/globe...r_that_missed/
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Disappointing...yes very!!!!

I am for one, very disappointed......I have owned many Dodges....... And this one is a dud.........I wish I could find someone to unload this R/T to. I have had it since the first of Jan..........And Dodges approach to handling the problems is almost non existent.......This is my last Chrysler product.......and I've owned many in the last 47 years....Wolfie
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Disappointing.................NOT

have owned my R/T for several months now

drives and handles awsume getting 18.5 MPG city and power to boot

can tow my car trailer with no problem

only had one problem with her and that is the driver window auto up down prob some people are having and that seems to be fixed by wiggling the fuse

i have had less problems with this vehicle then a few people i know that own imports

ohhh well its consumer reports and we all know how they feel about domestics
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I am extremely satisfied with my R/T. I am getting 18-19MPG around town. The only fit and finish problem was a plastic panel on the back of the rear seat which my dealer replaced in the first week of ownership. The only electrical problem was identical to WarriorBob's, and the fix was the exact same too.

Despite what others have said, I find it easier to clean than my last vehicle. I love the mid-size of the vehicle. The ride is superior to my wife's Nissan. The steering is precise and tight. Overall performance is much more car like that any SUV I have ever owned, including my last Jeep Liberty. People should not get the wrong impression here. This is a 4000+ lb vehicle, even though it will perform well, it will also flip over if you over do it in corners. If you spend some time with it, you will quickly learn it's limits.

Through polls on other Nitro sites, it is evident there were problems with some early models. It is also clear that most of those problems have now been eliminated from production. Anyone looking to purchase a new Nitro should not be discouraged by any of the old problems they may read about on Nitro forums, especially if they purchase a 2008 model which will begin production in August.

The drive is comfortable and possibly addictive. With MyGIG on board there is no reason not to be entertained. GO GET YOURSELF ONE!!
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Consideriong that CR was also the one that shot down the Corvette, an american legend I find little credibility in anything they say anymore.

From a very happy Corvette and so far satisfied Nitro owner.
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Buy American!

What a ridiculous and mindless thread!
The originator doesn't even own the vehicle.
Why wouldn't you go to the 'Consumer Reports' site or the 'Japan/China/Korea' vehicles site. Obviously the thread was intended to provide a negative slant from an ill informed and biased perspective.

FYI I usually pay small attention to the 'Consumers Reports' evaluations. If you would read the 'USER COMMENTS' on all the sites for the NITRO they are very very positive. But the question I would have for you, ricaren, is WHAT'S IT TO YOU ANYWAY? Are you enjoying your Prius?

Pretty obvious the demographic for a 'DODGE' would be the consumer who prefers American labor! I, for one am loyal to the American (North American) brands and work for a rust belt company that actually is able to compete against low priced foreign made goods. We ship to Canada and Mexico NAFTA Free Trade and appreciate the open borders... unlike the Asian countries who are anxious to suck the gravy off the top of the American economy and dump products at low prices... Think Toyota has your best interest at heart? Think again!

I am simply amazed at the lack of loyalty and patriotism at the spoiled selfish American consumer... and the attitude of many 'Americans'. What's wrong with a little Nationalistic PRIDE? Why is this counter to the attitude of so may spoiled consumers... Some day we will be paying the piper for this attitude.

Thanks for this thread, it reinforces the anti-American bias.
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What a ridiculous and mindless thread!
The originator doesn't even own the vehicle.
Why wouldn't you go to the 'Consumer Reports' site or the 'Japan/China/Korea' vehicles site. Obviously the thread was intended to provide a negative slant from an ill informed and biased perspective.

FYI I usually pay small attention to the 'Consumers Reports' evaluations. If you would read the 'USER COMMENTS' on all the sites for the NITRO they are very very positive. But the question I would have for you, ricaren, is WHAT'S IT TO YOU ANYWAY? Are you enjoying your Prius?

Pretty obvious the demographic for a 'DODGE' would be the consumer who prefers American labor! I, for one am loyal to the American (North American) brands and work for a rust belt company that actually is able to compete against low priced foreign made goods. We ship to Canada and Mexico NAFTA Free Trade and appreciate the open borders... unlike the Asian countries who are anxious to suck the gravy off the top of the American economy and dump products at low prices... Think Toyota has your best interest at heart? Think again! Also, if you read the first line of his post, you will notice that he is in FULL SUPPORT of the Nitro.

I am simply amazed at the lack of loyalty and patriotism at the spoiled selfish American consumer... and the attitude of many 'Americans'. What's wrong with a little Nationalistic PRIDE? Why is this counter to the attitude of so may spoiled consumers... Some day we will be paying the piper for this attitude.

Thanks for this thread, it reinforces the anti-American bias.
Chill out man, all he was doing is providing information that he found, that he felt we would be interested in, which I for one was. He is not trying to bash the Nitro is any way. If you read his other posted threads, you will see that he has posted a lot of other News threads about Chrysler and their products. Who do you think you are coming here and bashing the thread poster. If you don't like the thread, why did you read it, much less post in it?! Chill out...
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Ouch

The man himself said he was glad for a little controversey; little slow in here.
Forgive me if I am invading your territory.
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