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SUVs but what about iconic Dodge and Chrysler models?


Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares laid out a plan that’s good news for the development of pickups and SUVs at the company’s Auburn Hills tech center Wednesday, but the future of other iconic Chrysler and Dodge vehicles is an open question.

“We expect pickups and SUVs to be developed in the Auburn Hills,” Tavares said following a visit to the former Fiat Chrysler’s Detroit manufacturing complex. The Oakland County tech center also will develop electrified versions of those vehicles, he said.

Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares (left) and Detroit Assembly Complex – Mack plant manager Michael Brieda inspect the steel body of a Jeep® Grand Cherokee L built at the facility as part of a tour on Feb. 9, 2021. Tavares and other members of the Stellantis leadership team visited Mack and the Detroit Assembly Complex – Jefferson plant, home of the Jeep Grand Cherokee and Dodge Durango, to meet with employees and get a firsthand look at those operations, marking their first North American visit since the Stellantis merger was completed last month.

Beloved, but slower-selling models like the Chrysler 300 sedan, Chrysler Pacifica minivan, Dodge Charger sedan and Challenger coupe were not mentioned.

Auburn Hills engineers’ main job will be developing pickups and SUVs.

That’s the most important thing for the U.S. role in the newly created Stellantis. By engineering and building many of the company’s most profitable and best-selling vehicles, Auburn Hills, and thereby Detroit, is assured a significant voice in investment, management and corporate strategy for what just became the biggest car company in town.

The savior of lost brands?
Just as they did under FCA, DaimlerChrysler and when Chrysler was independent, sales of Jeeps and pickups will determine Auburn Hills’ fate, and the company’s role in Michigan and America’s economies.

That doesn’t make the 300, Pacifica, Charger and Challenger disposable, though.

2021 Chrysler 300S

Each is, in its own way, a legitimate icon. Chrysler invented the minivan, and has always built one of the best, persisting as competitors dropped out of the market. The 300 reinvented the exciting American sedan in 2005.

Dodge has built a unique brand image around the Charger and Challenger’s styling bravado, performance and value. Who would’ve thought a brand could get away with commercials showing George Washington leading a charge at the wheel of a muscle car? Who wouldn’t hesitate before walking away from that image?

Not Carlos Tavares.

One of Stellantis’s early surprises has been the CEO’s enthusiasm for brands conventional wisdom said were doomed. He breathed new life into Opel after acquiring the German brand from General Motors. Now he speaks almost rapturously about Chrysler: “We’re very keen on supporting a Chrysler brand rebound,” adding Stellantis values and loves the brand. You don’t hear a lot of that. Trust me.

“We are going to fully use the tech center in Auburn Hills to engineer all products focused on the U.S. market,” Tavares said.

What’s next for 300, Charger, Pacifica?
That doesn’t mean the Pacifica or the big sedans and coupes are going away, IHS Markit analyst Stephanie Brinley said.

“Stellantis’ mission is not to slice and dice the brands and make them smaller,” Brinley said. “The goal is to do things better, not to do less.”

That means the long-awaited next-gen 300/Charger et al. are likely still coming on a modified version of the outstanding Giorgio platform FCA developed for the Alfa Romeo Giulia and Stelvio sport sedan and SUV. That should keep the iconic names and their performance profile alive for at least another five or six years. Beyond that, the survival of modern muscle cars like that will depend on advances in electric vehicles and whether Alfa Romeo can justify its survival after the middle of the decade.

Similarly, developing a new Pacifica should be relatively easy. Peugeot has built large front-wheel-drive cars and minivans that use the same kind of underpinnings as Chrysler minivans for decades.

“Where the engineering of a modular platform took place won’t be relevant,” Brinley said. “Stellantis’s scale can allow them to provide each brand with what it needs more efficiently.”

It took years for Chrysler’s model line to dwindle to its current paltry state. Rebuilding it will take years, too.


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Reborn Ram Dakota Truck Reportedly Canceled
by Jay Traugott 02/21/2021

Stellantis has other plans in mind?

Ever since the arrival of the reborn Ford Ranger there have been reports here and there Ram also intends to re-enter the midsize truck segment. The Dodge Dakota was discontinued in 2011 following a nearly 25-year production run, and Ram, now the official truck brand, wants in on the action and profit. The Jeep Gladiator is officially classified as a midsize, but its styling is not for everyone. A more conventional design offering would only broaden Ram's appeal. Or would it?
GM Authority is now claiming "sources from within Stellantis" indicate the Dakota project has been canceled. No other details have been provided, so this should be taken with a grain of salt for the time being.


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Grand Wagoneer | Grand Adventures

March 4, 2021 , Auburn Hills, Mich. - The return of an icon! The all-new 2022 Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer will make their official debut at noon EST on Thursday, March 11, 2021.

The 2022 Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer return as a premium extension of the Jeep® brand and mark the rebirth of an American icon while continuing their legacy as the first modern SUVs. The Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer build on a rich heritage of premium American craftsmanship, heritage and refinement while offering a new level of comfort, legendary 4x4 capability and customer service.

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Nearly all Stellantis nameplates will have electrified option by 2025


By 2025, 96% of nameplates from Jeep, Ram, Dodge, Fiat and other Stellantis NV brands in the United States will have electrified options with all models offering a fully battery-electric option by 2030, CEO Carlos Tavares said Thursday during the company's first general shareholder meeting.

The details are an early glimpse into how the newly created world's fourth-largest automaker expects to tackle "the No. 1 challenge of the automotive industry," Tavares said. The company was created in January to generate the funds and scale to compete in an industry quickly adopting zero-emission technology in the face of growing demand and government mandates.

"This is what we are going to deliver to the market," Tavares said during the meeting, held virtually because of the COVID-19 pandemic. "Please recognize we are now accelerating this electrification move, and please recognize we are perfectly on-time and ready to deliver on the zero-emission mobility expectations for the markets in which we operate."
In 2021 alone, Stellantis expects to triple its worldwide electrified vehicle sales to more than 400,000 from sales made by its predecessors, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NV and French automaker PSA Groupe. Stellantis is adding 10 new models this year for a total of 39 electrified nameplates. The company has more than 110 nameplates across its 14 brands.

Fiat Chrysler had been seen as a laggard in the EV space. Between 2018 and 2020, the Italian-American automaker spent $26.8 billion (22.4 billion euros) on product development and production in electrification, Giorgio Fossati, Stellantis' general counsel, said Thursday.
The company in the United States currently offers the plug-in hybrid Chrysler Pacifica minivan and recently launched the Jeep Wrangler 4xe plug-in hybrid SUV. An electrified version of the Jeep Grand Cherokee SUV is coming later this year.

"They need to provide some details on how they are going to migrate the North American product to electrification besides plug-in hybrids," said Sam Abuelsamid, e-mobility for market research firm Guidehouse Inc. "We've seen no details of that plan."

Underlying Stellantis' plans are four new global battery-electric platforms, including three for passenger cars and one for large SUVs and pickup trucks set to debut in 2024 with no less than 310 miles (500 kilometers) of range, Tavares said. BEV passenger car platforms will begin to be introduced for medium and large cars in 2023 with more than 435 miles (700 kilometers) and 497 miles (800 kilometers) of range, respectively. The platform for small cars should be launched in 2026 with more than 310 miles (500 kilometers) of range.

"Those platforms are sized to deliver no less than the numbers we have just mentioned, which will address what we call the range anxiety issue of electric vehicles," Tavares said. "I think this is quite a breakthrough."

Converging onto just the four platforms is expected to contribute a third of the forecast $5.9 billion in cost savings created from the merger that closed in January. That should facilitate the company's U.S. goals as well as have 98% of its European nameplates with a plug-in hybrid or pure EV option by 2025.

Such "LEV" options should represent 31% of the automaker's U.S. sales by then, up from 4% in 2021, and 35% by 2030, Tavares said. The company expects this will be above the market average mix of 30%.

In Europe, LEVs should represent 38% of Stellantis sales by 2025, up from 14% in 2021, and 70% by 2030 compared to a predicted market average of 60%.

For comparison, General Motors Co. said in November that 40% of its new U.S. vehicle entries will be fully battery-electric by the end of 2025 and has set a target of 2035 for when all of its vehicles will be fully electric — such a deadline that Tavares has refrained from setting for Stellantis.

Tavares also underscored Stellantis' commitment to control around 80% of battery-electric vehicles' value, which is more than the automaker has of vehicles it makes with internal combustion engines. The concept borrows from the first automotive century's golden age when automakers controlled key parts of assembly and component production in what the industry called "vertical integration." Stellantis will share more details on batteries and its strategy during an electrification day on July 8.

PSA previously had developed joint ventures that will continue under Stellantis for the production of battery cells and modules by the end of 2023, electric motors by the end of 2022 and transmissions for hybrids by the end of 2022 for Europe. Stellantis itself plans to produce battery management systems by the end of next year as well as create e-powertrain and energy management software.

The automaker has not announced plans for a battery plant in the United States, but Tavares said work is moving quickly on such projects. By 2025, the company expects to have capacity for 130 gigawatt-hours and 250 gigawatt-hours by 2050.

Its Automotive Cells Co. joint venture with French oil and gas company Total SE and its Saft Groupe S.A. battery company will begin battery production at gigafactories in Douvrin, France, by the end of 2023, and Kaiserslautern, Germany, by the end of 2025. They are expected to provide 50 gigawatt-hours of capacity.

"Not only do we want to fast forward on this electrification transformation because we believe that our purpose is to deliver a safe, clean and affordable mobility to the citizens of the communities in which we operate," Tavares said. "We are not only now going to accelerate, but we are going to do this in an efficient way that is not wasting the resources of the company."
Stellantis isn’t alone. GM is working with LG Chem Ltd. on a $2.3 billion battery cell plant in northeast Ohio set for completion by 2022. Volkswagen AG last month said a joint venture with Northvolt AB will produce batteries in Germany by early 2024. Ford is examining the possibility of manufacturing its own batteries, too.

Also during the annual general meeting, 99.6% of shareholders voted in favor of a $1.2 billion extraordinary distribution in lieu of an ordinary annual dividend that has been paused due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Payments of 38 cents (0.32 euro) per share will be made April 28.
Holding companies representing Stellantis' largest shareholders, the Agnelli family of Italy and Peugeot family of France, shared in a joint statement that they signed a consultation agreement this week "aimed at strengthening the relations between the Agnelli and Peugeot families and to provide support for Stellantis in its long-term success."

The understanding allows Exor NV, which holds a 14.4% stake in Stellantis, and Peugeot 1810, which has a 7.2% share, to exchange views, though it leaves them free to vote as they wish.


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Stellantis CEO commits Jeep, Ram pickup-maker to big EV targets


The CEO of Stellantis, maker of Jeep SUVs and Ram pickups, told the company’s shareholders Thursday to expect a major boost in the number of pure battery-electric vehicle models it offers and in the percentage of low-emission vehicles it sells over the next nine years.

Carlos Tavares, who leads the company that resulted from the merger in January of Peugeot maker PSA Group and Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, offered a portrait of an entity committed to an electrified future, particularly in its two most important markets, Europe and the United States. He spoke during the merged company's first annual general meeting for shareholders.

Tavares committed to increasing the share of low-emission vehicles the company sells in Europe from 14% in 2021 to 70% in 2030 and in the United States from 4% in 2021 to 35% in 2030. Those increases would be paired with a plan to boost the number of nameplates with low-emission vehicle offerings to 98% in Europe by 2025 and 96% in the United States by then. Low-emission vehicles include both plug-in electric hybrids and pure battery-electrics.

Tavares said the company would triple its low-emission vehicle sales this year compared with 2020 to more than 400,000 vehicles.

“This is what we’re going to deliver to the market. Please recognize that we are now accelerating this electrification move, and please recognize that we are perfectly on time and ready to deliver on the limited emissions or zero emissions mobility expectations of the markets in which we operate,” Tavares said.

Stellantis’ pledge to bolster its EV credentials continues the departure, particularly in messaging, from the days when the late FCA CEO Sergio Marchionne actively discouraged people from buying the Fiat 500e because he said he was sick of losing money on the electric vehicle.

Fiat Chrysler had been considered a laggard in the push toward electrification but had upped its commitments in recent years. The company has developed a plug-in electric version of its Jeep Wrangler, and Mike Manley, FCA’s CEO who is now head of the Americas for Stellantis, said the company would offer an electrified Ram pickup.

While plans for the future look relatively green, the company’s present includes vehicles with a different philosophy, such as the 702-horsepower 2021 Ram TRX and its 12 mpg combined fuel economy estimate.

Still, Tavares has said the company would do its part to tackle emissions issues as it balances the costs of electrification, something he said would be helped along by the introduction of four platforms between 2023 and 2026 for battery-electric vehicles. Tavares noted that the company currently has more than 110 nameplates, and he said that developing four BEV platforms, presumably instead of many more, would help free up cash needed for EV development.

He laid out the expected driving range for each as well:

  • Small, 311 miles
  • Medium, 435 miles
  • Large, 497 miles
  • Frame (which would include large SUVs and pickups), 311 miles
These numbers, he said, would address range anxiety concerns, the worry that an EV driver might run out of electric power before reaching a destination.

In addition, Tavares said the company intends to control a larger portion of the components that go into electric vehicles, from platforms to motors to batteries. The company has battery factories planned in Germany and France and will announce more this year, including in North America, he said.

The company will offer a deeper look at its plans during Stellantis Electrification Day, currently slated for July 8.


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Discussion Starter · #266 ·
After The “Bachelor Party” Phase Of ICE-Powertrains Is Up
by Lucas Allen May 21, 2021,

2020 Dodge Challenger 392 Widebody

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As electrification becomes part of an undeniable future for the automotive industry, the fates of our favorite V8-powered muscle cars appear to be all but written. That said, the muscle car segment is currently experiencing what could easily be called its brightest moment since their historic “golden age” of the late 1960s and early 1970s. And when you think of the current crop of these V8-powered machines, none are more true to their roots than the Dodge Challenger and Dodge Charger. As you might expect, the very character of these big, beloved American brutes are inseparable from their powerful Hemi V8 engines. But it appears a change in formula is imminent.
2021 Dodge Muscle Car Family Durango Hellcat Charger Redeye Challenger Super Stock
Dodge Durango SRT, Dodge Charger SRT, and Dodge Challenger SRT. Image via Stellantis.

The Future Of Dodge Muscle Cars
“There hasn’t been a date drawn in the sand saying you’ll no longer be able to buy an iron block Hemi anymore, but everybody knows it’s coming and they want to enjoy (today) while they can… it will come to an end, but the replacements are going to be so much more exciting,” said Matt McAlear, head of Dodge Sales Operations in an interview with MC&T.

If you take a look at the current Dodge Challenger and Charger lineup, you’d be hard pressed to know that the industry is embracing hybridization and electrification. The Dodge muscle cars are available with three different V8 engine options, ranging from 375 horsepower up to 797 horsepower in the Hellcat Redeye models. That isn’t to say that Dodge isn’t gearing up for an electric future, but they realize their customers want to be able to experience the best V8 engines they can with the time we have left.
2021 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat Redeye Muscle Car
Photo copyright Manoli Katakis, Muscle Cars & Trucks.

“I think more than anything people are looking for the next generation,” said McAlear, on the broad trend of the shrinking muscle car segment. “Everybody knows electrification is coming, we’ll reinvent the muscle car as far as Dodge is concerned. I’m extremely excited about where the future is going, but right now everybody is enjoying ‘the bachelor party.’ This is the last hurrah.”

Several key figures at Stellantis have also made remarks about the what the future of the Dodge muscle car family will look like, including CEO Carlos Tavares and celebrity design chief Ralph Gilles.

6.2L Hellcat Redeye Hemi V8 Engine.
Photo copyright Manoli Katakis, Muscle Cars & Trucks.

The End Of An Era?
It’ll be a sad day when the last Hemi V8 rolls off of the production line, but we’ll never forget the impact they’ve had on the industry. But, as McAlear mentioned, there’s no clear line in the sand just yet (provided certain policymakers don’t get their way).

If this is truly the end of the line for the V8-powered Dodge Challenger and Dodge muscle cars, we couldn’t have asked for a better send-off. The current crop of models are genuinely some of the most enjoyable American vehicles money can buy.

As for whether or not there’s enough rare earth minerals to go around for the auto industry to make batteries, that’s another conversation.
“We’ll leave that to smarter people,” he said.

Dodge Challenger Scat Pack RT Widebody 392 Hemi Muscle Car F8 Green
Photo copyright Steven Pham, Muscle Cars & Trucks


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Dodge Launching New Alfa Romeo-Based SUV

Jun 6, 2021

Dodge Launching New Alfa Romeo-Based SUV There are currently only three models in the 2021 Dodge lineup: Challenger, Charger, and Durango. The Dodge Journey and Grand Caravan were retired last year but the official website still advertises them as 2020 models. The fact of the matter is that Dodge requires new product as those three survivors aren't exactly new. Fortunately, the recent merger between Fiat Chrysler Automobiles and the PSA Groupe to create Stellantis opens up all kinds of new possibilities and Dodge will soon benefit. According to Passione Auto Italiane, via Reddit, the upcoming Alfa Romeo Tonale compact crossover will be reskinned and rebadged as the Dodge Hornet. The Tonale, as we recently reported, has been delayed by several months as Alfa Romeo's newly appointed CEO ordered some last-minute improvements. The model is now scheduled to go on sale early next year. As for the Hornet, the report claims it'll be built alongside the Tonale at the company's Campano production plant in Italy but it won't be sold in Europe. Both vehicles will share the same 2.0-liter turbocharged engine found in the Wrangler and, possibly, a plug-in hybrid powerplant, though the report didn't confirm the latter. It seems Dodge has been interested in reviving the Hornet nameplate, which was used years ago by AMC, for over a year. When it was still called FCA, the automaker filed a trademark request with the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) in March 2020. Prior to that, there was the Dodge Hornet concept, pictured below, from the early 2000s. A nameplate revival isn't the only reason why the Dodge Hornet is kind of a big deal for the brand. The last time Dodge introduced a new model bearing a new(ish) name was way back in 2013 with the Dart. That compact sedan also had Italian underpinnings but it failed to catch on in the US and elsewhere it was sold. Dodge ultimately discontinued it in 2016. The company isn't likely to comment on future product but don't be surprised to see the Hornet debut sometime late this year or in early 2022.

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Next-Generation Dodge Muscle Cars May Be Previewed on July 8th

In the first instance, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles intended to switch the Challenger and Charger to the Giorgio vehicle architecture of the brand-new Jeep Grand Cherokee. The late Sergio Marchionne then said that a Maserati platform would be more appropriate for these applications. Right after that, he told the automotive media that an evolution of the 17-year-old LX platform would underpin the next-gen Dodge muscle cars.

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Fast forward to October 2020, and that’s when an agreement signed by Fiat Chrysler Automobiles and the Canadian auto workers union specified three new variants of the Challenger and Charger before the current generation bows out. When asked about the brand’s high-octane and muscle-bound future by our friends at Muscle Cars & Trucks, chief executive officer Timothy Kuniskis said to wait for July 8th for “some pretty interesting stuff.”

Tim has mentioned a SEMA reveal as well, but the big kahuna refused to go into further detail or even mention the Challenger or Charger nameplates.

If you could turn back the calendar to July 2019, that’s when FCA gave us a glimpse of the next-generation models in the guise of an eight-speed transmission. More to the point, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles will be supplied with hybridized 8HP transmissions by ZF Friedrichshafen from 2022 onward, which means that the redesigned Charger and Challenger could arrive for the 2023 model year. Based on the health crisis that shall not be named and the microchip shortage, we could even look at a 2024 model year debut.

Previously confirmed with electrified assistance by the head of sales operations Matt McAlear, the all-new Charger and Challenger with the fancy 8HP box could arrive in mild-hybrid, hybrid, or plug-in flavors. The most powerful transmission is called 8HP80PH, and in P2 setup for plug-in applications, it cranks out up to 215 horsepower plus 332 pound-feet (450 Nm) of torque.

Combine these figures with the 6.2-liter supercharged V8 of the Super Stock that develops 807 horsepower and 707 pound-feet (959 Nm) on pump gas, and you’ll get 1,022 horsepower and 1,039 pound-feet (1,409 Nm) in total.


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Dodge Is Building the World’s First All-Electric Muscle Car—and It’s Coming in 2024

Fri, July 9, 2021

Dodge may not be the first automaker that comes to mind when you think of the bleeding edge of automotive technology, but its executives realize there’s no use pushing back against the electric revolution.
On Thursday, the Detroit mainstay announced plans to launch its first fully electric model in 2024. But this won’t just be any old EV—it’s set to be the world’s first battery-powered muscle car.

The announcement was made during Dodge parent company’s Stellantis’s EV Day press event on Thursday. In a short video presentation, Dodge CEO Tim Kuniskis said his brand has no intention of offering mere electric cars but will instead sell “American eMuscle.” And as a way of proving this, Kuniskis revealed that the automaker’s first EV will be a zero-emission muscle car. A name has yet to be revealed, and the vehicle’s design was only hinted at, but the assumption is that the battery-powered beast will be based on the brand’s most famous muscle car, the Challenger. Of course, if the company is looking for an easy electrification pun, it could also be based on the four-door Charger.

“Our engineers are reaching a practical limit of what we can squeeze from internal combustion innovation,” Kuniskis said in his presentation. “They know, we know, that electric motors can give us more. And if we know of a technology that can give our customers an advantage, we have an obligation to embrace it.”

While details are currently close to non-existent, EV Day’s messaging suggests that the vehicle will be built on Stellantis’s new STLA Large platform. The auto conglomerate claims that vehicles built on the platform will be able to generate a maximum of 886 horsepower, go 500 miles on a single charge and accelerate from zero to 60 mph in two seconds, according to Autoblog. If true, this would make the forthcoming EV even more powerful than the current top-of-the-line Challenger, the SRT Superstock, which is equipped with a supercharged 6.2-liter High-Output HEMI V-8 that can generate 808 horsepower and 707 ft lbs of torque.

The muscle car, whichever nameplate it ends up using, won’t be the only famous Dodge that’s getting the electric treatment. Stellantis also announced plans to release an all-electric pickup based on the Ram, which is now its own dedicated sub-brand, in 2024. By then, America’s three top-selling trucks, including the Ford F-150 and Chevrolet Silverado, will have EV versions.

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Next-Gen Electric Jeeps And Rams Will Use Clever New Platforms


These platforms will offer a range of up to 500 miles.

Officially announced close to a year ago, Stellantis became one of the most significant automotive companies in the world following the merger of Fiat Chrysler and French Groupe PSA. It came at a critical time as the many brands under the Stellanties umbrella transition to full electrification. The Stellantis EV day this week already brought us news of an electric Dodge muscle car, while an electric Jeep Wrangler was also teased. Underpinning a brace of forthcoming EVs will be four new electric platforms and, as part of EV day, Stellantis gave us a first look at them. The four platforms are known as STLA Small, STLA Medium, STLA Large, and STLA Frame.


While the Small platform promises a range of up to 300 miles and the Medium one a 440-mile range, the Large and Frame platforms will underpin vehicles with a range of up to 500 miles. Fast-charging capability will enable 20 miles of range to be added in just one minute. Stellantis says that three electric drive modules (EDM) will combine the motor, gearbox, and inverter, and that they can be scaled with ease. This makes them suitable for front-, rear-, or all-wheel drive as well as 4xe models. But which vehicles are these platforms likely to underpin? Some conclusions could be drawn while the full EV Day 2021 stream was still live.

STLA Medium will serve premium vehicles, STLA Large will cater to AWD performance vehicles and more, while STLA Frame will focus on trucks. Likely new EVs from Stellantis include an electric crossover from Chrysler and a long-range luxury sedan that could perhaps go up against the Tesla Model S. A muscle car, DUV, SUV, an off-road Jeep, and a mid-sized truck were also mentioned. The new electric Ram 1500 will use the truck-focused STLA Frame platform; if it manages a 500-mile range, it will surpass the new Ford F-150 Lightning in this area. Stellantis also briefly teased a Wagoneer badge, indicating an electric version of the new SUV.

Battery capacities for the new platforms will range from 37 kWh to over 200 kWh. As for outputs, these will range between 94 to 402 horsepower depending on the specific power output. Remember, more than one EDM can be used per vehicle so high-performance cars will have the potential to offer over 800 hp. The STLA Small platform is likely to be reserved for city cars from the likes of Peugeot and Citroen in Europe, but the larger platforms should feature prominently in the US as Stellantis targets over 40 percent low-emission vehicle sales here by 2030.

Next-Gen Electric Jeeps And Rams Will Use Clever New Platforms

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Future Jeeps will be able to drive underwater, CEO says

July 15, 2021

Gary Gastelu
Thu, July 15, 2021

The new Jeep Wrangler Xtreme Recon can drive through 33.6 inches of water, but future Jeeps may be able to go much deeper than that.
During a recent electric vehicle presentation by Jeep's parent company Stellantis, a Wrangler was depicted driving while fully submerged, and that vision could become a reality.
"There is a little wink we have at the end, which is probably post-2030, but I know a lot of enthusiasts and a lot of our communities are requesting it," Jeep CEO Christian Meunier told The Detroit News. "There are some crazy, very amazing people in the Jeep community who do that type of thing already with an ICE, so you can imagine with a battery car what it would be."
Electric vehicles don't have air intakes or exhausts, so as long as their equipment is sealed they can operate underwater without any issues.

In fact, the currently available Wrangler Rubicon 4Xe plug-in hybrid, which has an all-electric range of 21 miles, is equipped with a waterproof battery pack and rated at a fording depth of 30 inches.


The capability may be useful even without scuba equipment. Meunier also teased future off-road autonomous capability that will allow Jeep owners to have their vehicles drop them off in the wilderness and meet them at a location at the end of a hike, rafting trip or other activity that could involve a body of water along the way.
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