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TIPM (complete power loss)

from daimlerchrysler.....safety recall g25-reprogram tipm-engine stalling. On 2007 dodge nitro and jeep wrangler models it states that the problem is ....the totally intergrated power module (tipm) on my vehicle, was programmed with software that may allow the engine to stall under certain operation conditions. This could cause a crash without warning!!!

Call 1-800-853-1403 for help in this critical matter. If your dealer fails or is unable to remedy this defect without charge and within a reasonable time, you may submit a written complaint to the administrator, national highway traffic safety adiministration, 1200 new jersey ave., s.e., washington, dc 20590, or call the toll-free vehicle safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (tty 1-800-424-9153), or go to Home | Safercar -- National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).

Good luck to all from mcnabb in louisiana!!!!!
 

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Update On My Blue Dodge Nitro

hello Again, My 2007 Nitro Currently Has About 20.689 Miles On It And So Far No Problems Since I Had The Previous Work Done On It, But I Talked To The Dealer After Receiving The Safey Recall Notice That I Mentioned Above And They Said To Bring In The Vehicle To Get It Serviced In This Matter Even Though The Job Seems To Have Helped Out. Just Letting All Know,
 

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Nitro Electronics Going Crazy!!!

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I drive a Nitro 2.8diesel here in South Africa. I have owned it since new from 2008 untill now. It has 98000kilometres on it and it is due for its last service under maintenance in the next two weeks.

Today my Nitro just went ballistic crazy on the highway. All the lights turned on and some flashed like a Christmas tree, aircon switched on and off, wipers went on, all lights went on, hooter went on without stopping. I immediately got a fright of my life and pulled over the road. When I removed my key, the engine still ran with all of the previously mentioned still going mad.

I actually had to disconnect the battery to stop this. Once reconnected, the Nitro is fine.....for a while. This happened to me 3x times today. I need to get this resolved under maintenance, as I am planning to keep her for a long term period.

Any ideas? Read up on the forum, might this be related to my tank overflowing when I fill up? Please can all of you respond. Any assistance will be appreciated!!!:eek::eek::eek:
 

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More than likely, it is a bad TIPM (computer). My Jeep Commander did this, but it ended up needing a new ignition switch.

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Driver Claims Car is "Possessed"

A Brookfield woman claims her car suffers spontaneous electrical problems.


11/30/2012

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Imagine driving down the interstate, when your horn unexpectedly starts blaring, your wipers turn on and your dashboard lights up. You'd have to pull over just to be safe.

A family in Brookfield told the Troubleshooters it's happened to them countless times.

Kelly Luf said her 2008 Dodge Nitro is "possessed".

"You're like a one person parade just driving down the street and your car is just having a party on its own," Luf said.

Luf said the vehicle's transmission has gone out several times during these experiences. She said it was like “hitting the brakes.”

"You have to kind of pull over. Let it run its course," Luf said.

Luf said her vehicle continues to have electrical issues for several minutes even after she removes the key.

Luf took videos of her Nitro acting up to help experts figure out why her Nitro keeps malfunctioning. She said she's spent $1,200 at dealerships on diagnostic work, but her vehicle has nothing to show for it.

"It's really frustrating when you bring a car to a dealership or whatever and they say, 'we know that there is something wrong, but there's nothing wrong,'" Luf said.

Kelly said replacing her car is not an option at this time. She and her husband are expecting their first child soon.

There's no telling when the vehicle will act out again.

"I don't like to have the radio on because I feel like I have to be kind of prepared for something to happen," Luf said.

Nick Kopcik is an independent mechanic who has tried to determine what is happening to Luf's vehicle. Kopcik said car computers used to control just engine management, but now they have gotten more sophisticated.

"It's an intermittent problem," Kopcik said. "If the problem doesn't show its head, it's not very easy to find out where the problem is."

Luf filed a complaint about her vehicle with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. According to NHTSA records, there are more than a dozen similar complaints about the 2008 Nitro filed by other drivers.

Chrysler is the parent company of Dodge. The automaker emailed a statement after we asked for a response to the apparent electrical issues with the 2008 Nitro.

"Electrical issues can have a host of causes," wrote Chrysler spokesperson Patrick Hespen. "However, Chrysler Group works to understand and, if appropriate, resolve all customer complaints."

Luf said Chrysler has been in touch with her since the Troubleshooters got involved.

"They made these cars so they should know fix them when there's quirks," Luf said.

But for now, her Nitro is parked in the driveway until someone can finally root-out it's "possession" problem.
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Sounds like she needs a new TIPM.

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Sounds like the same Dealership must be working on this Nitro as RedNitroGirl had working on hers, before finding a quality Dealer!
 

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Check the ground wire on TIMP
 

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NHTSA investigating power modules on Chrysler Group SUVs and minivans

NHTSA investigating power modules on Chrysler Group SUVs and minivans

09/30/2014




The Center for Auto Safety is officially petitioning the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to begin scrutinizing alleged problems with the totally integrated power module (TIPM) on about 24 Chrysler Group SUVs and minivans. The advocacy group claims that the part's failure can cause affected vehicles to stall or not start at all. NHTSA is still looking into the accusations and deciding whether a full investigation is actually warranted.

The CAS petition claims at least 70 TIPM failures, but according to NHTSA, six of the complaints are for models that don't have the modules. In 34 of the reported cases, the vehicles refused to start, and in 17 of them the engine stalled. There were also two allegations of smoke and one of a fire. However, none of these affected airbag deployment or resulted in a crash.

This petition isn't the first TIPM-related problem for Chrysler Group. A recent report in the New York Times alleged that it found 240 complaints potentially related to the issue on NHTSA's website alone. In September, the automaker also recalled 230,760 examples worldwide (188,723 in the US) of the 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee and Dodge Durango replace the fuel pump relay circuit inside of the TIPM-7 with one external to the unit. The original part could allegedly cause the models to stall without warning. Even earlier, the company also recalled about 80,000 examples of the Jeep Wrangler and Dodge Nitro in 2007 to have the module reprogrammed.

Autoblog spoke to Chrysler Group about the defect petition and was sent the following statement by email:

"In keeping with sound engineering practice and Chrysler Group's longstanding policy of cooperation with NHTSA, the Company is actively investigating customer complaints and retrieving components from the field for closer analysis. Every Chrysler Group vehicle meets or exceeds all applicable safety standards."


INVESTIGATION Subject : Totally Integrated Power Module Failure
Date Investigation Opened: SEP 25, 2014
Date Investigation Closed: Open
NHTSA Action Number: DP14004
Component(s): ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

All Products Associated with this Investigation
Vehicle Make Mode lModel Year(s)
CHRYSLER TOWN AND COUNTRY 2008-2014
DODGE CARAVAN 2008-2012
DODGE DURANGO 2011-2013
DODGE GRAND CARAVAN 2008-2014
DODGE JOURNEY 2008-2010
DODGE JOURNEY AWD 2009-2010
DODGE NITRO 2007-2012
DODGE NITRO 4X2 2007,2009
DODGE NITRO 4X4 2007,2009

DODGE RAM 1500 2009-2012
DODGE RAM 2500 2010-2012
DODGE RAM 3500 2010-2012
DODGEvRAM 4500 2011-2012
DODGE RAM 5500 2011-2012
JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE 2011-2013
JEEP LIBERTY 2007-2012
JEEP WRANGLER 2007-2014
JEEP WRANGLER 2-DR 4X4 2007-2009
JEEP WRANGLER 2-DR 4X4 RHD 2007-2009
JEEP WRANGLER 4-DR 4X2 2007-2009
JEEP WRANGLER 4-DR 4X4 2007-2009
JEEP WRANGLER 4-DR 4X4 RHD 2009
JEEP WRANGLER SAHARA 2007
JEEP WRANGLER X RHD 4X4 2007
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Manufacturer: Chrysler Group LLC

SUMMARY:
In a letter dated August 21, 2014, the Center for Auto Safety (CAS) petitioned the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) to initiate a defect investigation into failures associated with the Totally Integrated Power Module (TIPM) installed in Chrysler SUVs, trucks, and vans beginning in the 2007 model year. The CAS alleges that TIPM failures have resulted in incidents of engine stall; airbag non-deployment; random horn, headlight, taillight, door lock, instrument panel and windshield wiper activity; failure of fuel pump shutoff resulting in unintended acceleration; and fires. The petition includes a list of 70 complaints received by CAS that are allegedly related to Chrysler TIPM failures. The petition references a class action lawsuit regarding TIPM7 module failure and 63 of the CAS complaints relate to vehicles equipped with TIPM7 body control modules (1 complaint involves a vehicle equipped with a TIPM6 module and 6 complaints involve vehicles that were not equipped with TIPM modules). This defect petition review will focus on vehicles equipped with TIPM7 modules. Preliminary analysis of the 63 CAS complaints related to TIPM7 equipped vehicles identified 51 reports alleging incidents of engine stall (17) or no-start (34). Three complaints reported incidents of smoke (2) or fire (1). None of the reports provided alleged TIPM failures resulting in airbag non-deployment or unintended acceleration and none of the complaints alleged a crash. In a supplement to the petition, CAS identified 24 crashes from NHTSA's Early Warning Reporting (EWR) database that it believes may be related to TIPM failure and requested that NHTSA review these as part of its petition evaluation. In a September 3, 2014 letter, Chrysler Group LLC notified NHTSA of a safety defect in the Totally Integrated Power Module-7 (TIPM 7) in approximately 188,723 MY 2011 Dodge Durango and Jeep Grand Cherokee vehicles equipped with 3.6L and 5.7L engines (Recall 14V-530). According to Chrysler, some Jeep Grand Cherokee and Dodge Durango vehicles may experience a failure in the fuel pump relay within the TIPM which can result in a no-start or stall condition. Thirty-six (36) of the complaints submitted with the petition involve MY 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee and Dodge Durango vehicles equipped with 3.6L and 5.7L engines. The petition will be evaluated for a grant or deny decision. A copy of the petition will be placed in the public file (NHTSA Ref. No. 10637920).


RECALL Subject : Fuel Pump Relay may Fail Resulting in Stall
Report Receipt Date: SEP 04, 2014
NHTSA Campaign Number: 14V530000
Component(s):
Potential Number of Units Affected: 188,723
All Products Associated with this Recall
Vehicle Make Model Model Year(s)
DODGE DURANGO 2011
JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE 2011

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Manufacturer: Chrysler Group LLC

SUMMARY: Chrysler Group LLC (Chrysler) is recalling certain model year 2011 Dodge Durango and Jeep Grand Cherokee vehicles manufactured January 5, 2010, to July 20, 2011, and equipped with either a 3.6L or 5.7L engine. In the affected vehicles, the fuel pump relay inside the Totally Integrated Power Module (TIPM-7) may fail, causing the vehicle to stall without warning.

CONSEQUENCE: A vehicle stall increases the risk of a crash.

REMEDY: Chrysler will notify owners, and dealers will replace the fuel pump relay with one external to the TIPM, free of charge. The recall is expected to begin on October 24, 2014. Owners may contact Chrysler customer service at 1-800-853-1403. Chrysler's number for this recall is P54.

NOTES: Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to Home | Safercar -- National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).


Statement: Fuel-Pump Relay
September 20, 2014

Auburn Hills, Mich. - Chrysler Group is voluntarily recalling an estimated 230,760 SUVs to install new a relay circuit that improves fuel-pump relay durability.

A routine internal data review discovered a pattern of repairs involving fuel-pump relays in certain 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee and Dodge Durango SUVs. Further investigation revealed some relays are susceptible to deformation, which may affect fuel-pump function. Such a condition may prevent a vehicle from starting or lead to engine stall.

Chrysler Group is unaware of any accidents or injuries related to this condition.

The fuel-pump relay is located inside the Totally Integrated Power Module (TIPM), which also helps manage other vehicle functions. None of these other functions, including airbag deployment, is affected by the fuel-pump relay.

The recall covers an estimated 188,723 vehicles in the U.S.; 15,898 in Canada; 7,126 in Mexico and 19,013 outside the NAFTA region.

Chrysler Group will advise affected customers when they may schedule service, which will be performed at no cost.

Owners with questions may call Chrysler Group's Customer Information Center at 1-800-853-1403.

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complete power loss

Hey guys i have a little bit of an issue i need some help with. I have a 2008 nitro 3.7 v6. started it up backed out of the drive way drove about a foot and it shut off. I have no power what so ever i cant even shift it into natural to move it any ideas what so ever would greatly help.
 

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Hey guys i have a little bit of an issue i need some help with. I have a 2008 nitro 3.7 v6. started it up backed out of the drive way drove about a foot and it shut off. I have no power what so ever i cant even shift it into natural to move it any ideas what so ever would greatly help.
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If your issue is not battery related it may be a defective power module. If so and you do have to replace it (no warranty coverage) keep that receipt. It is a common issue discussed here in several Threads here and "Online". My 07 had it's power module replaced early on under warranty and have not had an issue since. Hope this might start you in a direction to solve your issue. Let us know how you get that Nitro running again. Good Luck!

NHTSA investigating power modules on Chrysler Group SUVs and minivans
 

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What the Heck is a TIPM?

What the Heck is a TIPM?
Totally Integrated Power Module Issues



The TIPM is responsible for controlling and distributing power to all of the electrical functions of the vehicle, including safety and ignition systems. The lawsuit claims Chrysler has long been aware of the TIPM problem, but refuses to publicly acknowledge it.

A defective TIPM can sometimes make it impossible to start your car. In addition, it can cause any of the following:

The fuel pump not turning off
The airbags not deploying OR deploying randomly
The engine stalling while driving
The horn going off at random times

In other words, having a vehicle with a faulty TIPM is like driving something possessed.


A History of Problems

The lawsuit claims Chrysler is well aware of the problems with the TIPM because 80,894 Jeep Wranglers and Dodge Nitro vehicles were recalled in 2007 for the same problem. In that recall, defective TIPMs had a software issue that could cause the engine to stall.

According to our data, the average TIPM repair cost is $1,200 and owners report the problems can occur under 40,000 miles. Complaint data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration mirrors the reports filed with CarComplaints.com.

The 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee has the most TIPM complaints on file for engine not starting problems, and the same issue is the second most frequently reported complaint on CarComplaints.com over the last 90 days.
 

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I did look into the tipm apparently there was a recall started on that back in 07.So i called the dealer i bought it from and the service department claimed it was done on my vehicle. i did disconnect the batterei for five ten minuets hooked it back up and the horn and windshield wipers starting going. After i changed my huggies i hooked it back up and still nothing.
 

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OK guys I got the nitro to run for about five tens minuets. I unplugged the PCM batteries and TIPM waited about an hour plugged it back in started it up and let it run for a bit turned the key off started it again I did that once more and the horn started blaring along with the wipers. Does this narrow it down to either the TIPM or PCM ??
 

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"TIPM failures have resulted in incidents of engine stall; airbag non-deployment; random horn, headlight, taillight, door lock, instrument panel and windshield wiper activity; failure of fuel pump shutoff resulting in unintended acceleration; and fires. The petition includes a list of 70 complaints received by CAS that are allegedly related to Chrysler TIPM failures."

Engine Stall, windshield wiper activity, & horn. Sounds like a TIPM failure.

Have you disconnected the Nitro battery for a while then hooked it back up? That may and I say May reset the TIPM. If you have not it would be worth a try.
 
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