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Iveco Daily on Ram’s Radar

Jul 8, 2011

CHELSEA, MI – Chrysler’s Ram brand could see adaptations of two fullsize vans from the Fiat truck family, Ward’s learns.

The auto maker’s product plan suggests two Ram vans will launch next year – one based on the small Class 1 Fiat Doblo and another based on either the front-wheel-drive Fiat Ducato or the Ducato’s brawnier, rear-wheel-drive cousin, the Iveco Daily.

But because the latter offers “different opportunities,” there could be room for more than one, says Bob Hegbloom, recently appointed director-Ram brand product marketing.

“Ducato? Daily? Both?” Hegbloom says, suggesting Chrysler’s vision of Ram is fluid in a fullsize van segment landscape where boxier, upright designs favored in Europe continue to gain traction in the U.S.

Refreshed this year, the Ducato boasts a maximum gross-vehicle-weight rating of 8,818 lbs. (4,000 kg), according to Fiat.

That would be good for fourth place in today’s expanding market behind the Mercedes-Benz Sprinter’s 24,317 lbs. (11,030 kg); the ’12 NV, Nissan’s first North American commercial van, at 9,900 lbs. (4,491 kg); and the 9,500-lb. (4,309-kg) maximum rating of longtime segment sales-leader, the Ford E-Series.

However, Hegbloom says the Ducato has the market’s sweet spot – Class 2 trucks with GVWR of 6,001-10,000 lbs. (2,722-4,536 kg) – well-covered.

“That’s where the big volume is,” he adds. “That’s the largest piece of the pie.”

Iveco Daily GVWR in 15,000-lb. range.

Through May, Class 2 truck deliveries – including pickups – totaled 637,050, 13.1% ahead of like-2010, according to Ward’s data. General Motors was the volume leader with 47.5% of the segment, followed by Ford with 39.5%.

Chrysler was well back in third with 11%, with Nissan and Daimler, represented by the Sprinter, each clinging to less than 1.3% of the market.

Hegbloom also defends the Ducato because none of its prospective competitors in the U.S. benefit from the compact packaging afforded by a FWD layout.

“So you have the lower load floor,” Hegbloom says. “Getting in and out of it is easier; loading material is much easier.”

Then there is cost of ownership. “Let’s say your driver hits something,” he adds. “The (Ducato’s) whole front fascia comes off with a few bolts.”

And the van is launching this year in overseas markets with two new engines, including a 177-hp 3.0L I-4 turbodiesel that promises, according to Hegbloom, a fuel-economy rating north of 25 mpg (9.4 L/100 km).

Currently, the Sprinter is the only U.S.-market van equipped with a diesel engine – a 188-hp 3.0L V-6 with Mercedes’ trademark BlueTec clean-diesel technology. Though not subject to U.S. Environmental Protection Agency ratings, its combined city/highway fuel-economy is in the range of 20 mpg (11.6 L/100 km), according to Mercedes insiders.

As for the apparent capability disparity between the Ducato and fullsize vans now on sale in the U.S., Hegbloom raises the prospect of a Ram-brand Daily. But he does not promise.

The Iveco Daily boasts a GVWR of up to 15,000 lbs. (6,804 kg), which tiptoes into Class 4.

Meanwhile, Hegbloom says the market might be receptive to a Ram fleet that ranges from Doblo to Daily.

“One thing that you see with the bigger fleets, or even small businesses, is (customers) like to have a one-stop shop,” he says. “So whether they’re buying pickup trucks or cars or they need vans, they want to have a relationship with a product, a manufacturer, a dealership.

“That’s why it’s really important for us to have a full line,” Hegbloom adds.

He confirms Chrysler is closely examining Iveco’s telematics solution for fleet management. The system, developed with Qualcomm, affords real-time transmission of data measuring fuel-consumption, travel distance and engine usage.

Tachograph driver activity data, which is prone to tampering and normally available only through physical access to a vehicle, is protected and accessible by remote download with the Iveco system, the truck brand says.

Chrysler is mum on the future of the recently launched Ram C/V, the brand’s current Class 1 van based on the auto maker’s successful minivan platform.

The Doblo trumps the Ram C/V on maximum payload at 2,205 lbs. (1,000 kg) to 1,800 lbs. (816 kg) – but comes up short on length. The C/V’s cargo space readily accommodates standard plywood sheets, while the Doblo cannot.

General trends suggest the writing is on the wall for the C/V and, perhaps, the aging E-Series.

Both feature low-roof designs that appear to be falling out of favor.

In a move that ignited a firestorm of protest in Canadian labor circles, that nation’s postal service recently chose the Ford Transit Connect over the Canadian-built Chrysler vans.

Like the Doblo, the Transit Connect, which is imported from Turkey, features the boxier profile and accompanying load-space functionality that is favored in overseas markets. And with first-half U.S. deliveries tracking 37.6% ahead of like-2010, the Transit Connect is the hottest-selling vehicle in the small-van segment, as defined by Ward’s.

The Sprinter paved the way for this shift with its 2003 North American debut. The van initially was sold under the Dodge and Freightliner brands during the Chrysler organization’s tie-up with Mercedes parent Daimler.

This marks the nameplate’s second year as a Mercedes product. Second-quarter 2011 saw the Sprinter’s share of the fullsize van segment double to 3.1%, according to Ward’s.

In May, Mercedes cut the ribbon on its 100th U.S. dealership accredited to sell the Sprinter. The van also is sold under the Freightliner brand at more than 50 other outlets.


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Ram to Receive Two New Fiat-Sourced Vans

Ram to Receive Two New Fiat-Sourced Vans, Could Receive Version of Fiat Doblo
July 11, 2011

With commercial van buyers' attitudes changing, Chrysler has announced that it will likely produce two models of van with designs coming from Fiat to compete with the Mercedes-Benz Sprinter and Ford Transit Connect models, according to Ward's Auto.

We already know that Ram will produce the upcoming C/V, based on the Dodge Grand Caravan, but their current line-up does nothing to combat some changing buyer attitudes towards vans. Spurred by the launch of the then-Dodge Sprinter in 2003 and the subsequent popularity of the Ford Transit Connect, commercial van buyers have started to move away from high-floor-low-roof vans and are quickly adapting to diesel power, low load floors, and higher ceilings. Since the final split of Chrysler's ties with Daimler, the Sprinter migrated out of Dodge showrooms and first into those of Freightliner and finally landing under the three-pointed star of Mercedes-Benz.

Fiat has quite the opportunity, then: it's already hawking a series of European panel vans across the Atlantic to critical and buyer acclaim, and has the capability to co-develop future models with Chrysler. Ward's is reporting, then, that Fiat and Ram will likely make two models: one small and one large.

The small van would likely be based on the Fiat Doblo, a model we've already seen being tested here in the States. A Doblo adaptation would likely be able to carry more cargo than the Ram C/V and produce better fuel efficiency. Don't expect the Euro-market Doblo's base engine, however: at 95 hp, it may be too anemic to satisfy power-hungry American buyers.

The large van would be based on either the front-wheel-drive Fiat Ducato or the brawnier, rear-wheel-drive Iveco Daily. At a maximum gross vehicle weight rating of 8,818 pounds, a Ducato wouldn't compete with the much brawnier Sprinter (which has a GVWR of 24,317 lbs), but would rather be a serious alternative to the Ford E-Series van, which is both old-school (high floor, low roof) and aging. The Ducato's party piece: front-wheel-drive, which allows the van to have a much lower load height.

Whether or not a Doblo van will cannibalize C/V sales remains to be seen as another carmaker works to follow buyer's new wishes, but plans to start selling the C/V in the third quarter of this year are unchanged. With the C/V, the commercial van market is heating up -- Nissan is just launching its NV vans and Ford has its Transit Connect small van.

Read more: Ram to Receive Two New Fiat-Sourced Vans, Could Receive Version of Fiat Doblo - Auto News - Truck Trend
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